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Get Organised With The Home Edit

 

In this episode Bonnie and Lily chat about the new Netflix show, Get Organised With The Home Edit. Find out what form versus function really means, how you can apply their strategies in your home, and what considerations you need to make when organising for aesthetics.

Episode Transcript

BONNIE: Hello and welcome! I am Bonnie

LILY: and I am Lily, and this is Little Home Organised, the podcast dedicated to helping you declutter, get organised and reclaim time for the things you love.

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BONNIE: Hello and welcome, in this week’s episode we are going to be talking about the new Netflix show, Get Organised with the Home Edit. We will chat about the Home Edit method, our favourite tips from the show and what you need to consider when using this method of organising.

LILY: But first before we get into todays episode which I am so very pumped about we have a-

BONNIE: I couldn’t tell.

LILY: We have an exciting announcement, something that has been in the works for a couple of months now and you have heard us mention it in our last few episodes but it is official.  The Essentials Guide, our first online course is up and running.

BONNIE: Woo hoo.

LILY: So if you would like to check it out please head to the website www.littlehomeorganised.com.au/online-courses/the-essentials-guide and it is the only guide you will need to organise every space in your home.

BONNIE: I say it so much better than you.

LILY: I know you do.  I looked at you like for approval and I was like did I get it, did I nail it

BONNIE: No not at all but that is okay.

LILY: We are really excited about it because it is a super practical guide to help you get on top of your stuff at home and if you are feeling motivated and ready and you are just wanting all the tools to get it done right the first time, then this guide is for you, so go ahead and check it out.

BONNIE:  But we are talking about the home edit today

LILY: Yes I am so excited.

BONNIE:  I know you are so excited and it is really funny because I think every organising podcast in the world is talking about the Home Edit at the moment and yeah we are doing the same.

LILY: Oh when you think about, the way that I like to think about the Home Edit is lets say if you are really into gardening, you might sit back at home and watch a show like Better Homes & Gardens and you look at all the beauty, they go and create beautiful gardens or they go to special places and say Oh look at this garden that this person has created and you, you know you oh and you ah over it and just think Oh isn’t that amazing, it is not necessarily the case that you are going to have a garden that  exquisite in your home but you appreciate it

BONNIE: It is like a showcase of some of the most unique

LILY: The potential

BONNIE: Or interesting gardens and I think the Home Edit is like a showcase of what some homes could look like with organising but it is not necessarily what the average home looks like.

LILY:  Yes that’s right and the big thing that you and I talk about of course Bon is pinterest perfect pantries and things like that and how we are not pinterest perfect and the Home Edit is exactly that, it is the pinterest perfect and for anyone who is obsessed with organising it is kind of that pinnacle, the ideal of oh this can bring beauty and function into my house and a huge emphasise is on the beauty side of it.

BONNIE: Yeah and I think that is what makes it so appealing for a lot of people, especially the rainbow colours,  we love a  good rainbow like lets face it, it just makes our hearts sing, I don’t know what it is but it is like so orderly, so nice like you know awhile ago a bunch of memes and stuff went around that were basically like perfectly organised pictures and it was like if this makes you happy click, like or something and it was things that were perfectly lined up, everything was the same length, you know all the potatoes were stacked exactly perfectly

LILY: Oh one item perfectly fits into another item it is not designed for

BONNIE: Yes

LILY: And it just likes lines up beautifully

BONNIE: And you just think like oohhh,

LILY: It does it makes your heart sing

BONNIE: It does, I know it is a bit sad. Anyway

LILY: So there is tonnes of stuff we have to talk about and I am so disappointed at the time limit that we have cause I could talk about it for hours and we will get into some of the really good tips at the end of todays episode that we have like identified throughout the show but I think first things first for anyone who hasn’t seen the show or even if you have and you just like love it and are lapping up all information about the show at the moment, like my current self.  The four main principles that the Home Edit uses, so they use EDIT, Edit, categorise, contain and maintain and that is like their 4-step system for organising.

BONNIE: Mmm and so if you are not someone who has watched it or you are not planning on watching it because like side by here, in the organising world especially online there are polar opposites, people are really divided, like there are some organises who are like, I am never watching that show it is rubbish rah rah rah and then there are other people who are like Yeah I absolutely love it, and there is people like me who sit in the middle and I think I like to learn as much as I can and bring as much experience to my clients as I can and if a client comes up to me and says I have been watching the Home Edit show and I would like to do something like that and you go oh well I haven’t seen it, I  kind of feel that there is  a missed opportunity then because

LILY: And also you I think as a client you would be expecting that the person that you are bringing on board as a professional organiser has knowledge of all the different areas of their field, whether they practice it or not

BONNIE: Yeah I feel like it is kind of your duty almost, it is a bit like if you were an expert in say mental health disorders you would want to know all the current research and all the current goings on in the world about it, so why not the same for organising  even if it is not the way you like to organise.

LILY: Yeah or if you are like a nutritionists and knowing all the up, weird diet trends

BONNIE: All the fads

LILY: Yes so that when someone comes in and they are talking to you about the diet that they are on

BONNIE: The air diet

LILY: Even though you know, the see-food diet,

BONNIE: Ooh yum,

LILY: my favourite.

BONNIE: I can do that one.

LILY: See food and eat it, hahahaha, that’s what I meant I don’t actually like seafood.

BONNIE: Ah that’s awesome

LILY: But you know you want to have that knowledge for your clients.  So going back to like the 4 core steps that they do, so like number one is Edit and that is just a fancy term for declutter

BONNIE :  Yeah I think they kind of skip over this part a little bit in the show because it can often be the part that actually takes the longest and because they focus on the show is very much about the end result and how it looks, I think the edit part probably, it probably takes just as long as it does everywhere else but it doesn’t necessarily get as much of a centre stage as kind of the result of what they are doing

LILY: Yeah and like it is a show, so it is like

BONNIE: It is all about entertainment

LILY: Yes so it is going to highlight the bits that are the most fun and the bits that are probably the most challenging is the editing process and I think I am just going to quickly jump back a step and just kind of give a bit more background to the show for those of you who haven’t seen it basically it is a team, their names are Clea and

BONNIE:  Joanna

LILY: Joanna and they are duo and they have a team of staff who work with them, and they go into peoples houses and help them organise and the premise of the show is each episode they organise a space for a celebrity and for the everyday person as well.

BONNIE: Yes so they have two jobs basically every episode

LILY: What is interesting now going back to the term edit is when they go in to do the declutter there is actually like an episode specifically where they have a fashion designer and so her thing is having every fashion

BONNIE: Yes

LILY: That she has created in her wardrobe or her closet and she doesn’t, that client really struggles to declutter

BONNIE: Yeah

LILY: And say goodbye to anything and that is actually something that is not overly uncommon but it is a little bit different when they are going through a celebrity’s space and how they seem to work with them compared to the everyday person,  I feel like they are almost more comfortable to challenge the everyday person

BONNIE: Yes well I think there is probably a bit of a power difference with a celebrity, you don’t want to tick them off because they could probably destroy you.

LILY: Yeah, I will ruin you but if I was, like they have an episode with one of the Kardashians, like if I was in her house and I was like do you really need these 10 vehicles, your child that cant even use them yet. Like she would be like excuse me, who are you.

BONNIE: Yeah, yeah exactly which is probably why they are on the show and we are not.

LILY: So the first step is editing and like I do feel like they don’t dive into it like you said enough in the show but that is the biggest and I feel like the most important step in organisation process is doing a proper declutter,  the one thing that I do like is that they seem to pull everything out, and then they jump into the next part which is categorising.

BONNIE: Yeah and the categorising part is just really simply putting like with like, so it is creating zones, it is about saying okay all the jewellery goes together, all the make up goes together, all the handbags go together so it is a really simple step of the process and we talked about this  a few episodes ago with the selling your home one without an agent episode where my husband I told that story, he got stuck and he get stuck because he could categorise, he just was looking at this pile of stuff and it was when I came in and said ok well these are the different categories lets put it into those 4 categories that he was like oh yeah okay I can do this, I can go forward

LILY: Yeah because you can get really overwhelmed right with the whole idea of the whole process but in that moment you literally don’t think about where the stuff is going to go just put like with like.

BONNIE: Yeah. It is really that simple.

LILY: And I do like that they go into that and you do see that process throughout the episodes and then they go into the biggest part that everybody kind of knows the Home Edit for and what you makes people tune in.

BONNIE: Product

LILY: And the product contain

BONNIE: Product, they get really excited about it too don’t they

LILY: They do and I have because I have watched a lot of behind the scenes stuff because again I have got a problem, um they I think they united with a big store in the States I think it is called the Container Store and they actually created a line of product that um that they as organisers kind of realised was missing from the industry and so I think that is also why they get very excited about it

BONNIE: Yeah

LILY: I mean pretty cool but this is the stuff that I think gets divisive when we talk about the product because man it is like gorgeous and beautiful and you can put a lot of things in boxes within boxes within boxes kind of thing containers within containers but there are questions around how much to you need to micro group

BONNIE: Yes

LILY: And also it is a heck of a lot of plastic

BONNIE: It is and so I mean we will talk about the considerations a little bit later in the episode but one of the things that has come up a lot in a lot of the organiser industry groups that I am in is the whole thing where people ring you up and say oh can you come an organise my house like the Home Edit and Yeah it is only going to cost me this amount of money and they don’t actually stop and think that they are going to have to spend you know a couple of thousand dollars on containers because that realistically when you look at each of those organising spaces that they have done on the Home Edit you are kind of looking at hundreds to thousands of dollars in product. And look it is a once off investment, like you shouldn’t be investing that much money into containers every year, every six months

LILY: Oh no way

BONNIE: It is stuff that should last you almost a lifetime so it is worthwhile doing it if it is right.

LILY: Yep, and the important thing that they are doing with the containers is the idea of creating those smaller zones and keeping like, like with like things together and keeping things in a functional way so that when you use it everyday it keeps together, it is easy to take out, put back, know where things go, like the whole idea of containing is actually an important principle of organising.

BONNIE: Oh if definitely is, like especially when you look at say an open linen shelf and you have just got these toward piles of linen that kind of keep falling over, if you can divide it up and do a bunch of containers especially when they are clear and they are see through it is so much easier to stack things, to see what you have got, to keep it neat and tidy and I have to admit there are times when I am bit lazy and I have clients who I know who are probably similar to me and baskets and containers especially if they are not see through, they give you the freedom to be lazy if you need to and just shove stuff in.

LILY: Chuck it in

BONNIE: Because then at least it is contained.

LILY: That’s it, its like it is in its designated spot where you still know this is where that item goes, I know where to go for it and where to put it back

BONNIE: Yeah and if you want to spend the extra time on making it you know vertical fold and it fits perfectly and looks pretty, then great you can do it but if you don’t have time for whatever reason at least it is still in the right spot and it is not overflowing into some other boundary or some other category and creating a bit of a mess

LILY: Absolutely it is still reasonably organised and then the 4th part that they do is the maintain stage and like that actually is referring to the systems that you set up to be able to keep on top of it all and the big part of that is labelling and oh

BONNIE: Their labels

LILY: Now I am dreaming of label makers

BONNIE: OH they are so pretty, and like being an x-teacher I am all for picture/work labels because they are so good for kids that picture and word association and some of their labels are just lovely and the fact that is that Clea whose handwriting

LILY: Yeah

BONNIE: She has made into a label, oh man my handwriting is just not that nice

LILY: No, do you remember that mum had me and my teachers in grade one have me use like a pencil grip because I couldn’t hold a pencil properly

BONNIE: Oh really

LILY: Yeah I still can’t

BONNIE: Really

LILY: It didn’t work, pencil grips failed me

BONNIE: Oh no

LILY: SO, I have terrible handwriting where it looks likes I am scrawling with like the opposite hand but that is just how I write

BONNIE: Maybe you should have been a doctor

LILY: Maybe, I did think about it

BONNIE: You are kind of smart enough

LILY: Oh thanks Bonnie

BONNIE: That’s all right

LILY: Now back to pretty things.  Um so like another big thing that the Home Edit is all about is they love rainbow colours and the idea of categorising visually with colour.

BONNIE: Yes they are very visual in everything they do and that is why they like clear matching stackable containers where you can see things and they just love a good colour wave and I have to admit there are times where I am like nah I don’t, I don’t know if the colour wave is the right thing to do but little secret

LILY: what

BONNIE: So recently we went to this kind of farm stay place

LILY: Oh, what have you done

BONNIE: Yeah

LILY: You cannot help yourself

BONNIE: I cannot help myself, I haven’t even told them I don’t know if they would notice, anyway um we stayed in this awesome little farm stay and it was like a 2 bedroom cottage and they had this massive bookshelf and I had DVDs and um reading books and like non fiction books and kids stuff and like I was looking for DVDs for the kids and everything was just all over the place and I was like I cant handle this, I cannot find anything and so I pulled it all out and I have reorganised it and because I had been watching the Home Edit I was like I am going to give this rainbow thing a go because I don’t normally do it

LILY: Yeah

BONNIE: So I had kind of categorised like all the you know thrillers and the action books all together and then I would put all like the romantic novels and you know the girly books and all that kind of stuff all together and then I was like oh stuff this I am going to do this colour thing and like it looks kind of cool, it really did look really cool

LILY: Yeah I definitely think there is a place for it and there is a place not for it.

BONNIE: Yeah

LILY: So like any categorisation system it is just a system that you can use or not use.

BONNIE: It is an option

LILY: Um I think the important message of what you are saying though is that you need to work on your boundaries. No actually I would do the same thing

BONNIE: I just see it as they are getting the benefit of my expertise and skills without the costs so

LILY: Oh see, there you go, but you also highlighted there that you generally in your organising don’t use this colour system so I think there is a place for it potentially with young children because they are visual and they know that the Thomas the Tank engine book is likely to be blue and like that makes sense but then it gets to a point I think where categorising um it is important to either you know do it in um alphabetical order or like for me I personally like to do books in height order.

BONNIE: Yeah so do I.

LILY: That’s visually pleasing to me

BONNIE: Yeah me too

LILY: Otherwise the up and down and up and down of books is

BONNIE:  I know I know it just kind of makes me a bit heebie jeebie.  The other thing I was actually thinking about this with my wardrobe is I am such a minimalist that even if I was to do the colour wave thing because I have tried it a little bit here and there

LILY: It would be all black because you are emo

BONNIE: Oh booo, I will have you know my emo phase was like 15 years ago

LILY: We all had an emo phase yeah didn’t we

BONNIE: Yeah

LILY: simple plan and all that

BONNIE: Simple plan

LILY: I love it

BONNIE: I have actually moved away from black, navy is my new staple, anyhow even if I look at say my blue section of my wardrobe there is probably only 6 or 8 items in there and they are a mix of short sleeve t-shirts, long sleeved shirts, shorts and jeans so like it is not, yeah cool it is all the blue stuff together but it is like what are your jeans doing with your t-shirts and your jackets all in one spot, it just, it doesn’t work for me.

LILY: And also I know you can do like a rainbow with pastels but pastels are very on trend at the moment at least to my knowledge they are unless I am really out-dated.

BONNIE: Someone tell my skin that okay

LILY: I know

BONNIE: They do not look good on me

LILY: No its like they wash you out right

BONNIE: Yeah

LILY: Um so like again like you could do a rainbow with those kinds of colours but also there look is for a very specific bright wardrobe look, so it is just, it does work, it is a system but you know just figuring out whether it works for you or not and in fact I actually have just reorganised my bookshelf and taken a before and after photo of how I like to normally organise it and then I have done a rainbow, we will throw it up onto the community group on Facebook and see what people think.

BONNIE: So go to www.facebook.com/littlehomeorganisedcommunity if you want to check that out.

LILY: Now before we jump into our clutter confessions can we discuss the reality of what organisers do versus what the show shows

BONNIE: Yeah absolutely because we have already mentioned it is all about the entertainment side of things and it doesn’t necessarily reflect every part of the process so there are basically 2 types of organisers, there are those that do if for them which is basically what you are seeing with the Home Edit, that is a team of people coming in and doing it for the client

LILY: Not really hands on

BONNIE: They are not really as involved in the process, and then you have the organisers who teach and these are the organisers who work side by side with you, they teach you why we are making these decisions of putting this here and putting that there, they help you with the decision making of what you want to keep, what you want to let go of um talk through the psychology about why you might be holding onto stuff or whatever and then they will teach you skills and strategies to maintain it because maintenance is actually the most important part.

LILY: And I guess it depends on you and your specific circumstances as to which organiser is a better fit for you, I think the teach ability sounds awesome because it actually sounds like you would have better outcomes long-term of people maintaining there spaces.

BONNIE: Yes and at Little Miss Organising we are actually all about the teaching, we don’t really like to do the doing it for people, um it kind of makes me feel like I am just the hired help when we do that and we are really passionate about

LILY: You want to help them with the growth

BONNIE: We are really passionate about empowering people to be able to do um without us because we don’t want to come back, have to come back once a month for the rest of your life because that is a huge expense for you and most people can be taught it.

LILY: Yeah

BONNIE:  You know they can be taught the skills of how to maintain it and then if we just need to go back every couple of years to do a freshen up or a tidy up then that is success in our minds so

LILY: Yeah you are trying to up skill people

BONNIE: Yeah

LILY: And help them to be able to do it themselves

BONNIE: I don’t know if it is because of my teaching background or whatnot but yeah I am really passionate about helping people learn and developing their skills in that area

LILY: And a lot of what of you see on the show is it is like minimal discussion at the start but they do ask a lot of questions to figure out the function of the space, so they do like cover a lot of the important stuff like that but then they the client disappears and they kind of do it all for them and it is beautiful and it is grand and everything up but they are missing the process of you know this is how we completely edit and make decisions, this is how

BONNIE: Yeah it is kind of like they miss that step of doing the hard work

LILY: The Client

BONNIE: Yes and so it is almost like when they come back do they actually stop and appreciate how difficult it was to get it to looking that pretty and are they going to value it more because they have done those hard yards of making decisions of letting go things and that whole process so it is a bit like I mean I have had plenty of people say to me, I just wish I could light a match and walk away.  That’s how overwhelmed they are with how their home looks

LILY: Yeah just want to start again

BONNIE: Yeah they just want to start afresh and the Home Edit way of organising is a little bit like that but at the same time a lot of psychologists will tell you to be able to actually move on you have to go through the processing part

LILY: Yeah, yep

BONNIE: And that is the hard work

LILY: All right we are totally going to get into the tips and everything from the show and keep talking all things Home Edit in just a moment but first lets have a break and listen to a clutter confession

CLUTTER CONFESSION

BONNIE: Okay so lets talk briefly about what we do as organisers at Little Miss Organised compared to the Home Edit style because I know that this is a question that is going to come up a lot in the coming months of do you do it like they do it

LILY: Yeah do you find that a lot with Marie Kondo?

BONNIE: Um

LILY: I don’t feel like it is a Marie Kondo has been as quickly saturated into social media the way the Home Edit has though

BONNIE: I think because her books had already come out before her show there was a lot of like talk about her methods way before her show came out so there was a lot of discussion usually when I did workshops and things like that um there is a lot of discussion about her methods and things like that and once again a lot of her methods are very different to what we would use but the best thing about the Marie Kondo show and the Home Edit show and the Hoarders show is that it brings awareness to the organising industry and it showcases that if you are in a position where you are feeling stuck and you are feeling overwhelmed that there are professionals out there who can help you.

LILY: Absolutely.  So, what do you do at Little Miss Organised that would be different to the Home Edit

BONNIE: Our focus is not so much on the pretty where we are really focused on function, so we need things to function for people primarily.  If we can get it be pretty at the same time then that is awesome but we are not going to push people into investing in to like containers that they can’t afford, um we try and get people to shop around their house first for containers that they use, things like that so we do love a good pretty pantry and you will see with a lot of our before and afters on like the Facebook page that you know a lot of them achieve that status anyway. Oh was that the couch

LILY: It is going to sound a bit dodgy in the recordings, sorry about that my couch is squeaky

BONNIE: I have just got to sit still now, um now I am off track

LILY: I know you have been eating too many beans

BONNIE: I don’t like beans, beans are gross, beans beans good for the heart

LILY: Oh lets cut it there

BONNIE: Anyhow yes so we really focus on functionality and practicality and I am a very practical person, I love a good present that is practical rather than just being you know a toy or something like that, where is my husband is the complete opposite he just wants fun things for birthdays and Christmases, um the things that we do that are the same as the Home Edit is we will have the brief at the beginning, the goal setting, the what do you want to achieve out of this space, what is working, what is not working um that kind of thing is really important because you need to kind of set the goals and the parameters before you get started.  One thing I love about what they do is at the end of the episode they do that um pan over of say the wardrobe and they highlight what each of the zones are, I love that um and I wish I could do it that easily

LILY: Because there wardrobes are enormous

BONNIE: Yes oh my gosh they are huge, can you imaging having to clean all that, anyway um yeah the whole zoning and the categorising thing and the categories, that is very much what we do is like this is the zone for all your pants to go, this is the zone for your gym gear all that sort of stuff so that is like, that is very much the same,, probably another thing that we do that is quite different is we don’t usually have a big team of people with handyman and a cabinet maker and a you know a whole staff of people, it is usually either one on one or you know maybe two organisers to a client or to a family so that is probably the other thing that is a little bit different.

LILY: Yeah as well, so yes it is a show and when you are being realistic you are not likely to encounter the professional organiser who comes in with the team that is going to have all those extra people and that is going to get your job done in like 4 hours, that’s the other thing it seems to be rapid transformations and I feel like they do take a little bit more time to actually complete.

BONNIE: Yes they really do and I remember when very early on in my organising career someone rang me up and said oh I need my kitchen organised um can I just book you in for an hour and I didn’t laugh at the time but when I got of the phone I did because I was like thinking um nobody has got a kitchen that can be organised in an hour like it is just

LILY No not even in a caravan maybe

BONNIE: No it is just not really possible so that is the thing that people really need to be mindful of when if they are starting to hire organisers now because of the Home Edit show is you need to be realistic about your expectations about how long it will take.

LILY: So before we jump into the top tips I think there are some other considerations that we do need to like highlight about the show and like we have talked about this whole idea of form meeting function, you know Clea and Joanne talk about how it should be aesthetically beautiful but also functional but the show definitely in that style of organising definitely leans heavily on how it looks.

BONNIE: Yes they are very much about the aesthetics which is fine but you have to make sure that it is actually functional and practical as well so there needs to be that

LILY: Realistic for your home

BONNIE: Meeting of the two

LILY: Yeah and within your budget as well.  So I think the biggest consideration to keep in mind with pretty organising is like how practical it is for you and your home so they talk about on the show about their style being form meets function but it definitely is more heavy on the form, it is more heavy on the aesthetic, how pretty and beautiful it is while their style is still functional that I don’t think it is a 50 / 50 balance and I think that is something important to keep in mind when you are organising your own home is that you are going to probably find it needs to be more functional.

BONNIE: And I think that might put some people off that whole pinterest perfect pantry side of things because they might think oh well if my home doesn’t look as beautiful as that after I have organised it maybe I have actually failed and I haven’t been successful at organising and that is not the case

LILY: No

BONNIE: anybody can organise their home and it doesn’t matter whether it looks the Home Edit style or whether it looks completely different as long as it functions well for you, you have organised it.   Well done

LILY: Absolutely just get in there and get her done

BONNIE: That’s right progress not perfection

LILY: I mean we say it every week and we really like, we mean it, like you can aim to have that amazing people stop from all around the country beautiful garden that gets features on Better Homes and Gardens you can strive for that but also like for the all the 99 other percent of people out there who are trying to do the everyday gardening it will still be beautiful it will still be you know pleasing and so we can apply that to our homes as well um when we get organised.  Now lets talk about top tips from the show.

BONNIE: Yes and we really had to cull these down because you had a lot to go through.

LILY: I mean we are clearly out towards the end of the episode and I have so much more to say but we are just going to have to like get these bad boys out because they are worth repeating

BONNIE: Stick with us people, I know it is long today but just stick with us

LILY: No 1, they talk about touch access and I love the you know the verbiage of this I love how it conveys the simple idea of flow, so like if you are sitting at a desk and you regularly need to staple things, use a pen, use a ruler they should be within a close proximity to where you are sitting, you put the important things in the touch access area and it is also where we use that whole prime real estate analogy right

BONNIE: Mmm yes so we talk about it as prime real estate at LMO um but I like how I think it is Clea like um champagne is my touch access I need to have touch access to that and I was like Yes chocolate baby

LILY: Oh sooo good for you

BONNIE: Anyway the other one I like is where they talk about clear containers because otherwise you can get the whole container graveyard thing happening.

LILY: Yes that situation

BONNIE: Where you can’t see what is in a basket and so you might not use it

LILY: You can’t really see that system so the system falls apart

BONNIE: I think that is worse if you have got a basket up higher like above kind of your shoulder height it is harder to get down and see it but if a basket is down lower it is like a pseudo draw and you can pull it out and see what’s in it and then put it back so that is probably the only thing I would think about but I do love all the clear stackable acrylic containers I think they are just really cool

LILY: Yeah if you are really visual like that and you need to be able to see into things and like that is how you are going to keep your system up to date that is a good way to go about it.  Another thing is that they talk about the idea of back stock and you guys at LMO you call it spares right

BONNIE: Yeah yep

LILY: So it is just like the overflow so imagine you have gone to Costco or you know Aldi or whatever your shopping centre is and they have got a special on and you want to buy a bunch of paper towel or a bunch of things

BONNIE: Toilet paper

LILY: Toilet paper, don’t do it, leave some for everybody, yeah so if you like want to go get a bunch of stuff that is on special you are not going to put all of that in your main pantry area where you are trying to grab your everyday spices and things like that because you are not going to have enough room so the idea of back stock is that it is space where you like store all that stuff and that still needs to be organised because you still need to have zones and boundaries otherwise you are going to end up with over filling things but the idea of back stock I just like the terminology it is like cool I can go out and buy things on sale and I can still keep that stuff organised and have a space for it.

BONNIE: It is a real retail term, the back stock one, it is a great term but the thing to think about is what is the boundary of how much back stock you can have, because I had a client years ago who had an under stairs cupboard full of back stock whenever cereal was on ½ price she would just buy a few more and by the time I helped her organise it, it had all expired, it was like thousands of dollars of back stock so have boundaries around it.

LILY: Absolutely, another thing that they showed on the show which I really loved the concept of is you know when you are using baskets in cubbies, like it is great to use those for those bigger bulkier items and toys and then you can focus on using like smaller containers and draws for like the smaller toys and so it is like a really nice visual way of setting things up so things that are like awkward can kind of be hidden like we were talking about earlier kind of hiding items.

BONNIE: Yep, yeah and I think another thing on the whole form side of things is bigger baskets down the bottom slowly being tiered up to smaller baskets up higher is a very pleasing look to have smaller stuff up the top in baskets and then the real big bulky stuff down the bottom I think it looks really nice but the one I really like in the panty is the idea of the dinner bin

LILY: Yes

BONNIE: Yeah so we would talk about it being like your meal category or your meal section or something like that but a dinner bin is like quite an easy term to remember

LILY: Well and this is this idea of categorising right so like you go in and you okay I am going to create a pasta section in my pantry because we eat a lot of pasta every week and I am going to have my cans here and I am going to have this here and it can get like you know you are trying to organise your home to work for you, you don’t want to go to the shops come home and be like oh I need to like have a section here that is just a Quinoa I need to have a section here that is just for lentils and I need to have you know, you want to be able to come home from the shops have the system work for you and be like oh sweet these are dinner foods, bam they go in there or meal foods or whatever it is, if you have to put in too much extra thought and too many extra steps you are not going to do

BONNIE: No

LILY: You are not going to follow it or it is going to become really overwhelming and take up too much time and we are all about reclaiming time here

BONNIE: Yes

LILY: At the Little Home Organised Podcast

BONNIE: Yes we are, now the last tip that they talk about which I love um is the whole idea of clearing up the floor space and we have talked about this one for a long time ourselves at LMO but vertical spaces are for storage and horizontal spaces are for activity and it is key isn’t it because when you start storing things all over your dining table well it makes it hard to eat dinner there doesn’t it and that is why you end up eating it on the couch every night so get some vertical storage happening so that your horizontal spaces are free for activities.

LILY: And unfortunately that’s all we have time for today but we have absolutely loved talking with you guys about the Home Edit, feel free to DM me, PM me and we can talk all things about it but we are definitely going to have the conversation flowing over in the group, all things Home Edit this week.

BONNIE:  Yes we have a great debate happening about it.

Ladies and gentleman lets get ready to rumble……….

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BONNIE: Form versus function which is more important to you is it the pretty factor or is it the practical factor.

LILY: And before we wrap up todays episode there is one more consideration to make if you are thinking you want to engage with a professional organiser in your home

BONNIE: And that is make sure that you get an organiser who is a member of their local industry body so here in Australia and it is overseas we have the Institute of Professional Organisers and you can just go to their find an organiser directory and find an organiser who is listed there in the States they have Napo, there are associations in pretty much every country nowadays otherwise IPO is a fantastic one to be a member of but it just means that they have a code of ethics that they operate by um and you can trust them a lot more than just someone who has decided oh I am going to be an organiser.

LILY: Yeah and like the great thing that you can do then is once they have got that tick ring them up and have a chat, find out about their methods and see if their methods are going to work for you, are they going to be doer or are they going to be  a teacher.

BONNIE: That’s right, go the teachers….

LILY: OH and one more thing guys if you haven’t already checked it out head to www.littlehomeorganised.com.au/online-courses/the-essentials-guide you can see what we are so excited to share with you, that new online course that will help you get organised in your home.

BONNIE: And last but not least this weeks tidy task, so nice and simple we would like you to pick a space in your home and Home Edit it and that basically just means declutter it and show your before and after on our Facebook page, Little Home Organised community.

LILY: And that’s it for this weeks episode thank you so much for tuning in, we know how busy life can be and we really appreciate you lending us your ears.

BONNIE: And remember PROGRESS NOT PERFECTION.

LILY: See you later

BONNIE: Bye

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